22 July 2025

The Prophet Nathan's words from God to King David...a commentary

26 Tammuz 5785 | כו' תמוז ה'תשפ"ה

 

Tower of David, Old City, Jerusalem (source)

 

The idea that Messiah is someone who would be supernaturally created (like the "virgin birth" of JC, for example), was not predicted by the Jewish scriptures. A prophecy in what we know as "2nd Samuel" (in Hebrew, Shmuel Bet שמואל ב) should explain the background of the real Jewish Messiah, promised by the very real Living God. 

By the time we're done here, you'll see why the Christian Church in all its forms has got its figurative foot stuck firmly in its mouth. Especially the pastors and other spiritual leaders in churches and governments all over the world (at this writing, Mike Huckabee represents them in my mind) who deal with Israel and Jews in such a way as to try to make Judaism disappear in the face of the false religion of "Christianity," especially and particularly in the homeland of the Jewish People.  

Dear God, please let the shock ensue, the false walls come down, and the truth come out. But let no Jew, whether loyal or repentant, be harmed, whether in Israel or outside the Land.

The one real standard that the Christians go by, whether they mean it or are just using it as a ploy of some kind, is that one has to prove everything by its presence in Scripture. By this they include the Tanach (Torah, Prophets and Writings), which they call the Old Testament, which a person can understand in more than one way: They can't outright get rid of it — because it would completely delegitimize them — but rather, they disparage it and rarely refer to it, except when it serves their interest. 

However, one of their favorite books is included in it: The book of Psalms, written and compiled by none other than King David. And they love the Prophets...or so they say.

 It is by no means the only place one can find this information scripturally, but it is the foundation on which it all rests.

Let's begin.

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The books of Samuel testify that two Prophets, Samuel and Nathan, came to King David to make and confirm not only him King of all Israel, but also his seed, son-after-son, forever. As part of this, we'll see that the term Mashiach always refers to the legitimate King of Israel.1 

Accordingly, the Mashiach will be revealed, whether in this generation or the next, or whenever; he is a human being and not a supernatural creation. I believe that the disparagement of the classic Jewish Testament books contributed mightily to the rejection by Christians of this testimony in favor of the "virgin birth" that supposedly God begot, or sired, a detail that is to be found nowhere in the Jewish Testament. 

It still continues today.

The prophetic statement of King and Mashiach has been there all along: It's the entire perek (chapter) 7 in the book of 2nd Samuel and is backed up by individual statements in both parts of the book of Samuel, the first and the second.2

This portion of 2nd Samuel, where God promised King David, after he was anointed King of Israel and fought the wars he needed to, when He did away with his enemies all around, that his direct male line from his time until the present — whenever that "present" is, because the promise is forever — is the messianic family as well as the royal family, FOREVER. 

Even if, or when, the intervening generations of this line abandon God's Torah and stop walking in His laws (also in Psalm 89, specifically verses 30-38, written, not by David, but rather by Eitan the Ezrachite), 

He will never forget His promise to David. It will come about, no matter how long it takes, no matter how winding the road is, before it comes to its never-ending fulfillment.

That's why we have said that the Mashiach has had the potential of revealing himself, or being revealed, in every generation. That's also why reference to mashiach ben David is made constantly in the Jewish prayer books.

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In your reading of the Holy Scriptures, have you ever noticed that King Saul, before he was rejected as king, was also referred to as Mashiach haShem2? (We would have to know where to look for that. It's in the Hebrew text, and if you don't have a Tanach or an "Old Testament" with Hebrew, it won't be there. My source has both, and my references are to a Jewish version published by Artscroll3.)

 ...and by none other than David, who was not yet king, himself, in different places in 1st Samuel. David knew that the properly-anointed Jewish king also means that he's Mashiach. 

David, the youngest son of Jesse/Yishai, was anointed by the prophet Samuel/Shmuel in 1 Samuel 16 according to God's command. 

In English: The anointed one of the Lord. It always refers to a king of Israel, including all the tribes.

Unfortunately, King Saul slipped up badly, and even his son Jonathan and all the rest of his sons paid with their lives. So, there was no male descendant to whom to pass the kingship on.

See this article, "Who is Mashiah in Tanach" for more details. The main Scriptural reference is 1 Samuel 24:7 and surrounding text. To summarize the point, it is written that, while Shaul haMelech was Melech (king), he was the Mashiach haShem (anointed of the Lord). All I know is that now that there is no "nation of Amalek" to speak of, we only know him by his behavior, specifically the goal of genocide against the Jewish People. The current leadership of Iran, and Hamas in Gaza, along with its brother organizations there, are prime examples of this.

 As written above, 2 Samuel 7, the whole chapter, is about the prophecy concerning King David from the prophet Nathan. It includes David's relationship with God and the promises He made to him, concerning Israel and himself.

There are lots of commentaries as well as verses on this page; the site is called Al haTorah (About the Torah), and  you can customize what you want to examine: To the right of the page you can choose the pasuk (verse) by Hebrew letter. On the left on each pasuk you can choose the E in a box to view the English translation, and it shows both Hebrew and English. That's how I copied the relevant verses in Hebrew and English, below.

The one problematic thing is that the page numbers in Hebrew end up being in the middle, or at the end, of sentences; I tried to put them at the beginning and it doesn't work for me. I apologize, especially to those who are more fluent in Hebrew and therefore notice these details.

 I bolded the parts most relevant to this discussion, particularly in verse 12 and below, in both languages.

  (י) וְשַׂמְתִּ֣י מָ֠ק֠וֹם לְעַמִּ֨י לְיִשְׂרָאֵ֤ל וּנְטַעְתִּיו֙ וְשָׁכַ֣ן תַּחְתָּ֔יו וְלֹ֥א יִרְגַּ֖ז ע֑וֹד וְלֹֽא־יֹסִ֤יפוּ בְנֵֽי־עַוְלָה֙ לְעַנּוֹת֔וֹ כַּאֲשֶׁ֖ר בָּרִאשׁוֹנָֽה׃

10 And I will appoint a place for My people Israel and I will plant them that they may dwell in their own place and not be agitated anymore. Neither shall the wicked afflict them anymore, as at the first,
 
(יא) וּלְמִן־הַיּ֗וֹם אֲשֶׁ֨ר צִוִּ֤יתִי שֹֽׁפְטִים֙ עַל־עַמִּ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל וַהֲנִיחֹ֥תִי לְךָ֖ מִכׇּל־אֹיְבֶ֑יךָ וְהִגִּ֤יד לְךָ֙ יְהֹוָ֔ה כִּי־בַ֖יִת יַעֲשֶׂה־לְּךָ֥ יְהֹוָֽה׃
 
11 even from the day that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel; and I will give you rest from all your enemies. Moreover, Hashem tells you that Hashem will make you a house. 
 
(יב) כִּ֣י׀ יִמְלְא֣וּ יָמֶ֗יךָ וְשָֽׁכַבְתָּ֙ אֶת־אֲבֹתֶ֔יךָ וַהֲקִימֹתִ֤י אֶֽת־זַרְעֲךָ֙ אַחֲרֶ֔יךָ אֲשֶׁ֥ר יֵצֵ֖א מִמֵּעֶ֑יךָ וַהֲכִינֹתִ֖י אֶת־מַמְלַכְתּֽוֹ׃
 
12 When your days are fulfilled, and you shall lie with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, that shall proceed from your body, and I will establish his kingdom.
 
(יג) ה֥וּא יִבְנֶה־בַּ֖יִת לִשְׁמִ֑י וְכֹנַנְתִּ֛י אֶת־כִּסֵּ֥א מַמְלַכְתּ֖וֹ עַד־עוֹלָֽם׃
 
13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.
 
King David ends the conversation with the request that, indeed, from His blessing that his house be blessed forever.
 
(כט) וְעַתָּ֗ה הוֹאֵל֙ וּבָרֵךְ֙ אֶת־בֵּ֣ית עַבְדְּךָ֔ לִֽהְי֥וֹת לְעוֹלָ֖ם לְפָנֶ֑יךָ כִּֽי־אַתָּ֞ה אֲדֹנָ֤י יֱהֹוִה֙ דִּבַּ֔רְתָּ וּמִבִּרְכָ֣תְךָ֔ יְבֹרַ֥ךְ בֵּֽית־עַבְדְּךָ֖ לְעוֹלָֽם׃
 
29 Now let it please You to bless the house of Your servant, that it may continue forever before You; for You, Hashem God, have spoken and with Your blessing, may the house of Your servant be blessed forever."
 
Many comments on the word זרע alone run throughout the site I got this from. 
 
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 It takes a firm emunah among the generations to hang on until this all happens; but knowing that God is All-Knowing, All-Seeing, All-Powerful, and Everywhere helps, no matter how bad the situation looks.

If you studied the p'sukim and their translations above carefully,  I think it should be clear that the Mashiah cannot be the "only begotten son of God" and a direct male descendant of King David simultaneously. 

In addition, it can be seen that God never promised that He Himself would sire a child at all, never mind one who would be half human and half God, or all God; He commanded His vegetable, animal and human creations to "be fruitful and multiply." Therefore, there is no "wiggle room" to allow for a human being to be sired directly by God, and no room for another nation to have a leader who will bring the whole world back to Him.4

This is the foundation of the prophet Daniel's 'rock not made by human hands.' "Scriptural proof" of any other messiah is on a shaky foundation, and we all know what a building on a shaky foundation is called: Fallen and broken.

What really shakes me up about this is that I never heard about it before a rabbi pointed out (I would give him credit, but I don't remember who it was; it was a long time ago) that the Hebrew term zera' זרע  actually refers to flesh-and-blood children and cannot be 'spiritualized,' as Christians particularly tend to do. 

I wonder why this point is not brought up more often. After all, no matter how you look at it, it's like saying that the masculine half of the reproductive process is irrelevant.

The end has not yet arrived. May it come soon, in our days!

Here's a short video a bit late, sorry about that (my fault, not the fault of the person who sent it to me.).

 


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1The kings of Israel, when separated from Judah, are not what is referred to here; only the unified nation of the Jewish People. 

2The phrase, Mashiach haShem, is found in the following pasukim (verses) in 1st Samuel: 24:7 (twice); 24:11 (David actually referred to King Sha'ul to his face here as Mashiach haShem); 26:9, 11, 16, 23; 2nd Samuel 1:14, 16; 2:4, 7 (the latter referring to David, who was anointed king of Judah).

3My Artscroll translation takes bayit, usually house, and translates it as dynasty — in context about a royal family, this also makes sense.

4This does not mean that the whole world has to become Jews, as has been written and said many times before. In fact, it will be the end of accepting conversion candidates! Everyone loves a winner and, as we often say about other things, "the opposite is also true." If you are not a Jew, and understand that only people who have found the truth in the Jewish scriptures despite all the lies, the attempts at ridding the world of Jews, and even when Jews have been evil, you might still be a candidate. But you might want to do it now, and not wait until we have survived it all, arrived at victory, and the world is free of evil. 

 

 

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More articles:

 Think for Yourself: Nissim Black on Candace Owens | Myrtle Rising: Interesting tidbits about the church accidentally hit in Gaza | VIN: Christian church hit in Gaza built on R' Yisrael Najara's shul, where Shabtai Tzvi was later declared Messiah [where's the proof that ST was King David's scion of his generation? I suspect there is none. - HDG] | Tomer Devorah: The Chr*stian blood libel is back!!!; URGENT follow-up to Huckabee visa complaints (includes video evidence); Setting the record straight on Taybeh | IL Hayom: US envoy [Huckabee]: I did not blame Jews for Taybeh fire |

 

More videos/audios: 

Pulse of Israel: Beware: Qatar turning Christians against the JewsLinked from Think for Yourself: The teaching of contempt: Christian roots of anti-Semitism (online book, not for download) |

 

 

 

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